6.10.04
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Mais uma vez Duncan Fox envia um email sobre crítica de M.P. ao concerto da Capela Real. Mantendo o espírito aberto que sempre nos motivou reproduzimos aqui o texto do músico, com a devida vénia. Cremos que é interessante perceber qual a instrumentação correcta, para os baixos e o resto, na música francesa, alemã e italiana; esta utilzação da instrumentação para os períodos em questão será importante em termos de autenticidade histórica. Claro que muitas vezes tem se partir para o compromisso, como também se fazia no barroco. Bach provavelmente foi forçado a utilizar uma voz por parte, algumas vezes, em Leippzig até 1730, mas porque não tinha meios, é a falta de meios que o leva a desistir das cantatas prematuramente, é provavelmente a falta de meios que o leva a um estado de abandono quase total da composição por dois anos. Hoje em dia transforma-se a desgraça de Bach numa teoria musicológica, no fundo uma fraude que serve credibilizar apenas a poupança de dinheiro nos contratos utilizando menos cantores e dispensando coros o que acaba por dar melhores rendimentos aos maestros, precisamente os autores dessa teoria absurda. Mas acima de tudo o mais importante será a interpretação autêntica, será o sentido musical. Segundo M.P. isso faltou no concerto da Capela Real. Gostava de saber a opinião de Duncan Fox sobre esse assunto, para mim mais importante.
Esperamos que o inglês original do nosso amigo Duncan não obste a uma leitura por parte da nossa audiência. Embora dirigido a mim, como "editor" deste blogue o conteúdo do texto é dirigido na maior parte a M.P.
Agradeço ainda a disponibilidade do Duncan em nos escrever.
Henrique Silveira
Dear Henrique
I find it a little bit difficult to see precisely what M.P. disagrees with in my message. He does not appear to say that it was wrong to use the D violone in Biber, nor can I find a clear statement that he believes that it is historically correct to use a G violone rather than a violoncino, French bass, or viola da gamba in 17th century French music. We both have already stated in our different ways that the instruments used in the bass section in the Charpentier (about three minutes in duration) were not correct. I hope his reply is not an example of what the British call "spin"- of which one of the most notable characteristics is the ability to seem to say something without actually saying it. I will assume that what he is telling me is that I was wrong to question the wisdom over his remark that I should have been using a violone (now violone in G)in the Charpentier.
I have already investigated parts of the texts to which M.P. refers, despite having, as he correctly divined, a somewhat inadequate library. I spent some time examining Brossard's definition of the term "violone" in his dictionary and find my case strengthened by it. Similarly, I read some of the Muffat text that he refers to and while finding nothing to defeat my case, found one passage that appears to clearly defend it. However, I would prefer to make a complete reading of the relevant parts of these sources before again putting forth any opinion (if anybody is still interested).
Having done this I will, I hope I will either try to show why I still believe I was right, or admit that I was wrong, in which case M.P. will have the pleasure of knowing that he has done something constructive (or shall we say didactic) in this area in which we share a considerable wish to improve.
Thankyou for what I see as your positive interest in criticism.
Incidently, despite speaking and reading Portuguese, my writing ability is not good and I have no doubt that you are much better off with my English.
Best wishes,
Duncan
Esperamos que o inglês original do nosso amigo Duncan não obste a uma leitura por parte da nossa audiência. Embora dirigido a mim, como "editor" deste blogue o conteúdo do texto é dirigido na maior parte a M.P.
Agradeço ainda a disponibilidade do Duncan em nos escrever.
Henrique Silveira
Dear Henrique
I find it a little bit difficult to see precisely what M.P. disagrees with in my message. He does not appear to say that it was wrong to use the D violone in Biber, nor can I find a clear statement that he believes that it is historically correct to use a G violone rather than a violoncino, French bass, or viola da gamba in 17th century French music. We both have already stated in our different ways that the instruments used in the bass section in the Charpentier (about three minutes in duration) were not correct. I hope his reply is not an example of what the British call "spin"- of which one of the most notable characteristics is the ability to seem to say something without actually saying it. I will assume that what he is telling me is that I was wrong to question the wisdom over his remark that I should have been using a violone (now violone in G)in the Charpentier.
I have already investigated parts of the texts to which M.P. refers, despite having, as he correctly divined, a somewhat inadequate library. I spent some time examining Brossard's definition of the term "violone" in his dictionary and find my case strengthened by it. Similarly, I read some of the Muffat text that he refers to and while finding nothing to defeat my case, found one passage that appears to clearly defend it. However, I would prefer to make a complete reading of the relevant parts of these sources before again putting forth any opinion (if anybody is still interested).
Having done this I will, I hope I will either try to show why I still believe I was right, or admit that I was wrong, in which case M.P. will have the pleasure of knowing that he has done something constructive (or shall we say didactic) in this area in which we share a considerable wish to improve.
Thankyou for what I see as your positive interest in criticism.
Incidently, despite speaking and reading Portuguese, my writing ability is not good and I have no doubt that you are much better off with my English.
Best wishes,
Duncan
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